NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby kayako » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:15 am

stever20 wrote:
kayako wrote:
billyjack wrote:
Although the general narrative has been that 1985 Villanova was a fluke, etc, that is not true


That team probably gets better than an 8 seed with todays seeding standards.

not really sure. 19-10 regular season. Looks like would have had 3 Q1 wins- Temple, Syracuse, and Boston College- maybe going like 3-9 in Q1 games. Scoring Margin in regular season of 4.69 which would have been .1 lower than Providence who only got a 4 seed at 4.8 with a 25-5 record. Seems like a 8 seed type to me now in days.


I'm seeing 19 games away from home, which probably gives them NET ranking in the teens.
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:19 am

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I'm seeing 19 games away from home, which probably gives them NET ranking in the teens.

fair but think the scoring margin overrides that to a decent amount.
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby kayako » Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:59 am

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I'm seeing 19 games away from home, which probably gives them NET ranking in the teens.

fair but think the scoring margin overrides that to a decent amount.


Just a guess on my part, but I'd think scoring margin was lower back then vs. today that has many teams and even conferences gaming advanced metrics.
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:15 pm

kayako wrote:
stever20 wrote:
kayako wrote:
I'm seeing 19 games away from home, which probably gives them NET ranking in the teens.

fair but think the scoring margin overrides that to a decent amount.


Just a guess on my part, but I'd think scoring margin was lower back then vs. today that has many teams and even conferences gaming advanced metrics.

It's definitely an interesting thing. So looking Temple was 25-6 and had a scoring margin regular season of 7.9 PPG.

Looking at Sports Reference(they have more sports now than just Baseball)- Nova had the #86 MOV in 1985 to include the tournament. Their SRS had Nova at #23 after the tourney(for comparison they have Nova right now at #10 this year).

Yeah thinking Nova probably would have still been a 8 seed, if not potentially lower actually.
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby kayako » Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:24 pm

stever20 wrote:It's definitely an interesting thing. So looking Temple was 25-6 and had a scoring margin regular season of 7.9 PPG.

Looking at Sports Reference(they have more sports now than just Baseball)- Nova had the #86 MOV in 1985 to include the tournament. Their SRS had Nova at #23 after the tourney(for comparison they have Nova right now at #10 this year).

Yeah thinking Nova probably would have still been a 8 seed, if not potentially lower actually.


Look forward to your complete reseeding of the 1985 NCAAT :)
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:09 pm

CBS just reported Torn Achilles.
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Postby Jet915 » Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:11 pm

stever20 wrote:CBS just reported Torn Achilles.


Horrible, he will be out for a year likely....
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby stever20 » Mon Mar 28, 2022 8:03 am

So 1 thing that could give hope to Nova. They played 1 game this year w/o Moore. Home vs UConn and they won that game by 11, 85-74. Chris Arcidiacono that game played 26 minutes. Dixon went 24 pts/12 reb in that game.
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby kayako » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:32 pm

stever20 wrote:So 1 thing that could give hope to Nova. They played 1 game this year w/o Moore. Home vs UConn and they won that game by 11, 85-74. Chris Arcidiacono that game played 26 minutes. Dixon went 24 pts/12 reb in that game.


The other 3 rotations are only 6 or 7 deep as well. Nova has a better than a decent chance to win as long as Gillespie and Slater get healthy with some days off.
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Re: NCAAT- Houston vs Villanova 3/26/22

Postby Savannah Jay » Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:53 pm

kayako wrote:
stever20 wrote:So 1 thing that could give hope to Nova. They played 1 game this year w/o Moore. Home vs UConn and they won that game by 11, 85-74. Chris Arcidiacono that game played 26 minutes. Dixon went 24 pts/12 reb in that game.


The other 3 rotations are only 6 or 7 deep as well. Nova has a better than a decent chance to win as long as Gillespie and Slater get healthy with some days off.


No one exemplifies "next man up" better than Nova.
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