Greg McDermott Suspension, Etc...

[MullinMayhem]

Everyone agrees that what he said was bad and no one has heard that reference used- it's not a Midwest thing ( as someone asked). The most important piece here is that Mac is no racist. All of the local people that I've heard from directly and in the press, both black and white, including politicians, players, coaches, all have said they have not witnessed ANY instances of Mac and any racial insensitivity. This is over the course of the 11 years he has been at Creighton. Add in all his other years of coaching, and there is nothing negative about his character. To me that is the most important aspect to this. If universities and people in general are too afraid to stick up for someone or something they truly believe in because they don't want to be the next one attacked, things are going to get even worse. The media is the major problem we have in this country, always trying to drive a wedge between people based on identity politics. To take a one time mistake and try to paint the person, and more importantly, the University as a racist institution is absurd.

Just so I have this straight, if you only get caught doing the racist thing 1 time, you aren't a racist? Pretty sure if you get convicted of doing the criminal thing 1 time, you are a convict and a criminal. Why does he get a pass here? How many times does someone need to be caught doing the racist thing before they are a racist?

You must be a blast at parties. And I'm honored to meet the one person on earth who has never made a mistake in their entire life.

[GoldenWarrior11]

Everyone agrees that what he said was bad and no one has heard that reference used- it's not a Midwest thing ( as someone asked). The most important piece here is that Mac is no racist. All of the local people that I've heard from directly and in the press, both black and white, including politicians, players, coaches, all have said they have not witnessed ANY instances of Mac and any racial insensitivity. This is over the course of the 11 years he has been at Creighton. Add in all his other years of coaching, and there is nothing negative about his character. To me that is the most important aspect to this. If universities and people in general are too afraid to stick up for someone or something they truly believe in because they don't want to be the next one attacked, things are going to get even worse. The media is the major problem we have in this country, always trying to drive a wedge between people based on identity politics. To take a one time mistake and try to paint the person, and more importantly, the University as a racist institution is absurd.

Just so I have this straight, if you only get caught doing the racist thing 1 time, you aren't a racist? Pretty sure if you get convicted of doing the criminal thing 1 time, you are a convict and a criminal. Why does he get a pass here? How many times does someone need to be caught doing the racist thing before they are a racist?

Just I have this straight: you are comparing a verdict in a court of law against that in the court of public opinion? Intelligent comparison.

Look, I don't know Greg McDermott, nor am I in tune with the Creighton community. If this is a repeated pattern of communication, then it is applicable to categorize an individual of racist behavior. However, if this truly is a one-off, one bad mistake should not be labeled as inherently racist. Stupid, yes. Disciplinary action required, of course. But, again, it is a slippery slope, for anyone, to take the worst thing someone has said an apply that to their entire livelihood and character. Otherwise, what is the purpose of education? What is the purpose of society as a whole for incarcerated individuals, using your criminal analogy?

Again, this is an unfortunate situation and the only institution capable of making the right decision is Creighton. Not angry social media posters. Not anyone here on a forum. Not anyone outside their community. Only Creighton leadership can investigate and, ultimately, make the right decision for its school, it's basketball program and community.

[MullinMayhem]

The people who want McDermott fired and call him "racist" are the same people applauding Nick Cannon (a literal supremacist) keeping his job after saying melanin determines morality (the nice way of saying it) and want zero accountability for criminals. Just remember that.

[MUBoxer]

The people who want McDermott fired and call him "racist" are the same people applauding Nick Cannon (a literal supremacist) keeping his job after saying melanin determines morality (the nice way of saying it) and want zero accountability for criminals. Just remember that.

Well this is a stupid take. Do you always paint with a single broad brush and call it art?

I don't even want the guy fired but maybe a board of trustees and AD has to be concerned about admissions, future effect on Recruiting, bad PR etc. a little more than the short sited "if you want him fired you're supporting criminals and Nick cannon" view you're making this out to be.

[Bogg]

The fact that context, intent, and actions no longer matter tells you everything you need to know about where we are as a country. Don Imus type stuff...now that isn't cancel culture. That is just pure hatred and glad he was fired for that. But getting into mind-reading about what Mac really thinks because he said something careless but not a slur or anything? That is cancel culture.

I don't know what to tell you - if you don't want to work in a PR-adjacent field then don't become a professional entertainer, and if you choose to become a professional entertainer you pretty much lose the right to complain about fallout from creating a PR mess. Like 75% of a coach's job is some mixture of keeping your good players from transferring, recruiting, and putting a good face on the university; you can always find a good Xs and Os assistant.

It seems pretty clear at this point that they don't intend to fire him (if he offered to resign that's a get-out-of-buyout-free card they passed on) so if it means he has to do an apology tour, serve a suspension, and winds up donating a chunk of his 7-figure salary to local charities this year then boo hoo - this is the field you decided to work in, and you make 7 figures annually to do it in freaking Nebraska of all places.

[DudeAnon]

Look, as far as I can tell, this is the first hint of racist behavior by Coach Mac over decades of working with predominantly black athletes. It was a horrible phrase and a punishment is just, but lets not make it more than it is.

Ironically, the NCAA does use a plantation system "We won't pay you, but you get to live here for free while you work!". Obviously Coach Mac has no issue with paying the players (tried to offer Bowen 100k if I remember correctly.) Would love to see him come out against the NCAA and in favor of paying the players so they can get off the "plantation".

[MullinMayhem]

Bad PR lasts for a few days up to a few weeks. And then it goes away and people don't care anymore after the media drops it. Look at Pitino. What Mac said was really really dumb and insensitive. But we need to stop going too far at the same time. It's a tough balance...I get it. You know what would be really cool and might ACTUALLY help everyone? Having a Big East townhall type of thing where teams have representatives (players/staff/both) who discuss things like this. This is how we can have a better understanding and clear the air, thus calming some tensions. You don't calm tensions or learn anything by just getting your life ruined and canceled. We keep missing these perfect opportunities to bring people together and learn from each other.

[MUBoxer]

So you want to take away autonomy of each individual institution to make their decisions based on their ethos and priorities because "cancel culture"?

End of the day, jesuits school in Omaha Nebraska is going to be vastly different than Vincenzen in New York City (& Rome). They have different guidelines and a different demographics of stakeholders. There's no reason that either should be consulting with the other schools over a personnel decision within their program that could effect the university as a whole.

[Bogg]

Bad PR lasts for a few days up to a few weeks. And then it goes away and people don't care anymore after the media drops it. Look at Pitino. What Mac said was really really dumb and insensitive. But we need to stop going too far at the same time. It's a tough balance...I get it. You know what would be really cool and might ACTUALLY help everyone? Having a Big East townhall type of thing where teams have representatives (players/staff/both) who discuss things like this. This is how we can have a better understanding and clear the air, thus calming some tensions. You don't calm tensions or learn anything by just getting your life ruined and canceled. We keep missing these perfect opportunities to bring people together and learn from each other.

I suppose as long as everything in the world is hand-holding and hugs they can invite all the Big 12 and B1G coaching staffs to the "don't be mad at me" summit so they can pinky-promise to leave the past in the past and to not bring this up on the recruiting trail, too.

[butlerguy03]

Look, as far as I can tell, this is the first hint of racist behavior by Coach Mac over decades of working with predominantly black athletes. It was a horrible phrase and a punishment is just, but lets not make it more than it is.

Ironically, the NCAA does use a plantation system "We won't pay you, but you get to live here for free while you work!". Obviously Coach Mac has no issue with paying the players (tried to offer Bowen 100k if I remember correctly.) Would love to see him come out against the NCAA and in favor of paying the players so they can get off the "plantation".

If you have to ask your team whether you should resign...the writing's on the wall, man. You did something bad.

However, recruiting won't be affected as long as he keeps dropping bags of cash.