OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby ArmyVet » Thu May 07, 2020 12:33 pm

Xudash wrote:
ArmyVet wrote:How can a college administrator support having athletes competing if students aren't on campus?

Multiple conference commissioners told Stadium that student-athletes would not be prevented from returning to campus to play football this season if classes are limited to online-only instruction.

This is a dramatic shift from just a few weeks ago, when many college administrators indicated the general student body would need to return to on-campus classes in order for student-athletes to participate in college football. Those decisions – whether to play if the campus is closed to general students but open to student-athletes – ultimately will be made by the individual school presidents or chancellors.

“Going to class in an online sense is satisfactory,” Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said. “There’s room for that to happen. School has to be in session, student-athletes have to be going to class.”


https://watchstadium.com/will-college-f ... 5-07-2020/


I'm not being snide with you AV, but I believe the answer to your question probably has something to do with money and survival.

As has been the case with COVID-19 all along, we'll continue to learn more and more with each passing day. 90-days from now - yes, an arbitrary amount of time at this point - we'll be a few weeks away from the big-bash kick-off weekend for college football. How much can we learn by then in order to squeeze out more uncertainty that comes with this virus: where will we be with more and better data to track its true impact, with medicines, et al?


Maybe I should rephrase my question:
If a university has determined that it is not safe for the student population to be on campus, how can they legitimately justify having student-athletes participating in sports while on campus? If that can be answered without using money as a reason, I am all ears.
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Thu May 07, 2020 3:20 pm

ArmyVet wrote:Maybe I should rephrase my question:
If a university has determined that it is not safe for the student population to be on campus, how can they legitimately justify having student-athletes participating in sports while on campus? If that can be answered without using money as a reason, I am all ears.


Sports, at all levels, have provided (and continue to provide) hope and pride to the entire country (not to mention the world). It represents resilience, performing at a high level, handling adversity, being better than you are and representing your school, your town, your state to the best of your abilities. Sports unite us, they bring us together, they provide us strength and represent the very best of us, in athletics and in competition, within society.

I have great confidence in sports resuming soon, as they should.
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby Xudash » Thu May 07, 2020 3:55 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:
ArmyVet wrote:Maybe I should rephrase my question:
If a university has determined that it is not safe for the student population to be on campus, how can they legitimately justify having student-athletes participating in sports while on campus? If that can be answered without using money as a reason, I am all ears.


Sports, at all levels, have provided (and continue to provide) hope and pride to the entire country (not to mention the world). It represents resilience, performing at a high level, handling adversity, being better than you are and representing your school, your town, your state to the best of your abilities. Sports unite us, they bring us together, they provide us strength and represent the very best of us, in athletics and in competition, within society.

I have great confidence in sports resuming soon, as they should.


+1. Great response.
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby gtmoBlue » Thu May 07, 2020 8:55 pm

GoldenWarrior11 wrote:
ArmyVet wrote:Maybe I should rephrase my question:
If a university has determined that it is not safe for the student population to be on campus, how can they legitimately justify having student-athletes participating in sports while on campus? If that can be answered without using money as a reason, I am all ears.


Sports, at all levels, have provided (and continue to provide) hope and pride to the entire country (not to mention the world). It represents resilience, performing at a high level, handling adversity, being better than you are and representing your school, your town, your state to the best of your abilities. Sports unite us, they bring us together, they provide us strength and represent the very best of us, in athletics and in competition, within society.

I have great confidence in sports resuming soon, as they should.



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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby stever20 » Thu May 07, 2020 11:53 pm

not sure where to put this but a funny as anything tweet from Allen Iverson
https://twitter.com/alleniverson/status ... 3964910593

just fyi- Thursday was the 18 year anniversary of the famous practice rant.
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby Xudash » Fri May 08, 2020 4:45 pm

Xavier has announced that it intends to get back on campus this fall, subject to Ohio and Federal restrictions, should they arise.
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby Fieldhouse Flyer » Tue May 12, 2020 8:31 am

These two widely reported stories are well worth a read. The EU chickened out, and trade continues. The Australians didn’t and face continuing pressure.

The EU rewrote a report detailing China's coronavirus 'disinformation' campaign following pressure from Beijing – Business Insider - April 27, 2020
The European Union removed references to a "global disinformation" campaign by the Chinese government, which were included in a draft report about the coronavirus pandemic, after pressure from Beijing.

Three sources told Politico that Chinese diplomats had successfully pressured the EU into changing the wording of an official report into "disinformation around the COVID-19/Coronavirus pandemic."

An EU diplomat told colleagues that "the Chinese [were] threatening with reactions if the report comes out," the New York Times reported last week. An earlier version of the report, seen by Politico, referenced a "continued and coordinated push by official Chinese sources to deflect any blame," for the coronavirus pandemic.

However, the final version published by the EU references only a "continued and coordinated push by some actors, including Chinese sources, to deflect any blame." References to a Chinese campaign of "global disinformation" were also removed before publication, Politico reported.

China Cuts Australian Beef Imports Amid Virus Tension – AP/The New York Times – May 12, 2020
CANBERRRA, Australia — China suspended imports of beef from four Australian producers on Tuesday following a threat by Beijing of possible trade retaliation if Australia pushed for an inquiry into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.

Beijing has rejected calls by Australia and other governments for an international inquiry into the origin of the coronavirus, which emerged in December in central China.

Ambassador Cheng Jingye told The Australian Financial Review last month the country might face a Chinese boycott of its tourism and exports of wine, beef, and other goods if Prime Minister Scott Morrison's government pressed for an inquiry. China is the No. 1 market for Australian beef, accounting for about 30% of exports.
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby ArmyVet » Wed May 13, 2020 7:47 am

Cal-State system including 23 campuses will not open for fall. Among schools impacted are San Diego State, San Jose State, and Fresno State which play football in the MWC.

More importantly, "the separate University of California system, which includes Cal and UCLA, has not fully committed to the same step as the CSU system. But a spokesperson for the UC system told CBS Los Angeles it is "likely none of our campuses will fully reopen in the fall."

What now?
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby GoldenWarrior11 » Wed May 13, 2020 10:47 am

ArmyVet wrote:Cal-State system including 23 campuses will not open for fall. Among schools impacted are San Diego State, San Jose State, and Fresno State which play football in the MWC.

More importantly, "the separate University of California system, which includes Cal and UCLA, has not fully committed to the same step as the CSU system. But a spokesperson for the UC system told CBS Los Angeles it is "likely none of our campuses will fully reopen in the fall."

What now?


Simple, really.

https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/ncaa-mandate-uniform-return-college-sports-mark-emmert/story?id=70650145

"These are localized decisions," Emmert said Tuesday. "Local campuses have to decide: Are we opening up, and are we bringing students back to play sports? The NCAA doesn't mandate that, nor should it. The schools themselves have to make those choices."

Emmert has already backtracked his original "all-or-nothing" statements. Some schools may choose not to be open this Fall, others will be be. The ones that are will be able to be open and play sports. I'd imagine Val will be also taking a similar stance in the coming weeks, as more states choose to open.

There will be college and pro sports this Fall and Winter; it just depends on your local government choosing whether or not to be behind the rest of the pack. Alabama (which was to be playing USC Week 1) is already talking with TCU (California) about that spot. Conferences might not be at full strength this year, but schools that are open and able to play should not be penalized by the states that choose not to.
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Re: OT- How concerned should we be about CoronaVirus impact?

Postby LMS » Wed May 13, 2020 10:49 am

ArmyVet wrote:Cal-State system including 23 campuses will not open for fall. Among schools impacted are San Diego State, San Jose State, and Fresno State which play football in the MWC.

More importantly, "the separate University of California system, which includes Cal and UCLA, has not fully committed to the same step as the CSU system. But a spokesperson for the UC system told CBS Los Angeles it is "likely none of our campuses will fully reopen in the fall."

What now?

It feels like this will follow blue state vs red state politics. Certain states will move ahead and others will stay shut down. What if a senior to be at DePaul wants to transfer and play elsewhere if Illinois determines no on campus schooling? This is going to get nutty.
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