Fox Sports 1 Update

[stever20]

The game on Friday that's going to get the worst ratings is going to be Braves/Dodgers. It's going to be going up head to head with the Yankees/Red Sox for at least half of the game, if not longer. Remember, Yankees/Red Sox games go really long. 5 of the 19 games this year with them went at least 3:40. And that was regular season. So it's very possible that game might not be over until 11:30, if not later. If that game is 5-1 or something like that at the point the AL game is over- won't be many changeovers at all. Normally you might be right about the early Friday game being the wost game. But going head to head with Yankees/Red Sox is a killer. I'm shocked they didn't start the game at 1030- like they did last year with the Dodgers/Diamondbacks game.

As far as your question about are you more or less likely to watch other games in the playoffs- I'd actually say if either, it'd be less likely. You are already investing watching your team play for 3-4 hours. Lets go to the Braves/Dodgers series. Do you really think a Yankee or Red Sox fan after the game is over will turn over to FS1? I don't. I think they'll go out or head to bed. Also, if you are going to watch another game, it's going to be the other game in your league.

As to your point about well, FS1 will have their shot next year to get Yankees/Red Sox. Yes, it's possible. But it's no guarantee.

Regardless of all this- this week has not gone well for Fox in the least. They had a shot to have Cubs/Brewers and Dodgers/Braves with a further LCS of Cubs/Dodgers. Losing the Cubs is a huge loss.

[adoraz]

The game on Friday that's going to get the worst ratings is going to be Braves/Dodgers. It's going to be going up head to head with the Yankees/Red Sox for at least half of the game, if not longer. Remember, Yankees/Red Sox games go really long. 5 of the 19 games this year with them went at least 3:40. And that was regular season. So it's very possible that game might not be over until 11:30, if not later. If that game is 5-1 or something like that at the point the AL game is over- won't be many changeovers at all. Normally you might be right about the early Friday game being the wost game. But going head to head with Yankees/Red Sox is a killer. I'm shocked they didn't start the game at 1030- like they did last year with the Dodgers/Diamondbacks game.

As far as your question about are you more or less likely to watch other games in the playoffs- I'd actually say if either, it'd be less likely. You are already investing watching your team play for 3-4 hours. Lets go to the Braves/Dodgers series. Do you really think a Yankee or Red Sox fan after the game is over will turn over to FS1? I don't. I think they'll go out or head to bed. Also, if you are going to watch another game, it's going to be the other game in your league.

As to your point about well, FS1 will have their shot next year to get Yankees/Red Sox. Yes, it's possible. But it's no guarantee.

Regardless of all this- this week has not gone well for Fox in the least. They had a shot to have Cubs/Brewers and Dodgers/Braves with a further LCS of Cubs/Dodgers. Losing the Cubs is a huge loss.

The mental gymnastics you make to discredit Fox/BE are incredible.

No, people would be less likely to watch a sport if their team is eliminated (on average). I'm 100% confident that's true. I bet you if we took a poll for how much BE basketball the average DePaul fan watches throughout the year, they'd be bottom of the conference. Yankees being in is good, period. Otherwise, Yankees fans would ignore the playoffs especially with their rival being in it.

I've always agreed that Cubs would be better for Fox than the Rockies. But as far as the BE is concerned, we've gone through this already.

As for Friday's games:
Indians @ Astros 2:05
Rockies @ Brewers 4:15
Yankees @ Red Sox 7:32
Braves @ Dodgers 9:37

Every game is literally separated by 2 hours and 5-10 minutes (aside from the Rockies/Brewers which will end at the time Yankees start... a benefit for FS1). By your logic, every game is screwed. Yes Yankees and Red Sox usually take longer than average, but that is not always true and you're acting like they last hours longer.

[stever20]

casual fans will care about 1 series and 1 series only this week. That's Yankees/Red Sox. Also, for tonight- I think the general feeling is that there are 3 really good series and then Braves/Dodgers. Game 1 was 6-0 Dodgers. If Dodgers are up big when the Yankees/Red Sox game ends, why would anyone change over?

As far as the Big East is concerned- I don't think that there's much of a benefit for the Rockies being in the playoffs over the Cubs. At all. Colorado is in the Pac 12, which is covered some by Fox. So the area already knows Fox.

Oh, you must really not watch many Boston/New York games. They had 5 games this year over 3:40. 6 last year. And those were regular season games. Now it's the postseason where the games go longer. If Fox is lucky, the game will be over at 11pm.

[billyjack]

Yeah, it's bad for FS1 that they're televising a team in the 2nd largest city of 13 million in the playoffs, and it's the only team left from California or West of the Rockies. And it's bad that a lot of New Yorkers have had their Dodgers (and Giants) fandom passed down by their fathers and grandfathers.

And it's bad that a Cinderella team like the Brewers is on FS1 cuz people hate rooting for the underdog. Sky is green, grass is red.

[adoraz]

casual fans will care about 1 series and 1 series only this week. That's Yankees/Red Sox. Also, for tonight- I think the general feeling is that there are 3 really good series and then Braves/Dodgers. Game 1 was 6-0 Dodgers. If Dodgers are up big when the Yankees/Red Sox game ends, why would anyone change over?

As far as the Big East is concerned- I don't think that there's much of a benefit for the Rockies being in the playoffs over the Cubs. At all. Colorado is in the Pac 12, which is covered some by Fox. So the area already knows Fox.

Oh, you must really not watch many Boston/New York games. They had 5 games this year over 3:40. 6 last year. And those were regular season games. Now it's the postseason where the games go longer. If Fox is lucky, the game will be over at 11pm.

Stever, you don't appear to be a fan of any team and just post on message boards... so you don't have any insight into viewing habits if your team is active/eliminated. I do. Again, if I asked you which BE fan base has watched more college basketball over the past five years, you know that DePaul would almost certainly be last while Nova would be at the top. Do you think Georgetown engagement is as high now as it was previously? Obviously not.

You logic on the Rockies/Cubs doesn't make any sense. Which is it, we want BE/PAC markets or we don't? You're contradicting yourself.

As for the Red Sox vs Yankees, well let's do some basic math here. 5 games over 3:40 means 14 games under 3:40. (just took a quick look at their regular season schedule, pretty sure 19 games this year)

As for your Braves swipe, yeah we sucked yesterday and I'm not confident we can keep up with the Dodgers. We'll see, but I also don't expect to get blown out every game. Baseball is way too random to predict this stuff.

[Novachap]

casual fans will care about 1 series and 1 series only this week. That's Yankees/Red Sox. Also, for tonight- I think the general feeling is that there are 3 really good series and then Braves/Dodgers. Game 1 was 6-0 Dodgers. If Dodgers are up big when the Yankees/Red Sox game ends, why would anyone change over?

As far as the Big East is concerned- I don't think that there's much of a benefit for the Rockies being in the playoffs over the Cubs. At all. Colorado is in the Pac 12, which is covered some by Fox. So the area already knows Fox.

Oh, you must really not watch many Boston/New York games. They had 5 games this year over 3:40. 6 last year. And those were regular season games. Now it's the postseason where the games go longer. If Fox is lucky, the game will be over at 11pm.

Stever, you don't appear to be a fan of any team and just post on message boards... so you don't have any insight into viewing habits if your team is active/eliminated. I do. Again, if I asked you which BE fan base has watched more college basketball over the past five years, you know that DePaul would almost certainly be last while Nova would be at the top. Do you think Georgetown engagement is as high now as it was previously? Obviously not.

You logic on the Rockies/Cubs doesn't make any sense. Which is it, we want BE/PAC markets or we don't? You're contradicting yourself.

As for the Red Sox vs Yankees, well let's do some basic math here. 5 games over 3:40 means 14 games under 3:40. (just took a quick look at their regular season schedule, pretty sure 19 games this year)

As for your Braves swipe, yeah we sucked yesterday and I'm not confident we can keep up with the Dodgers. We'll see, but I also don't expect to get blown out every game. Baseball is way too random to predict this stuff.

clearly the smartest guy in the room though, right?

[stever20]

We'll see the ratings. Casual fans don't see the Dodgers/Braves series as being all that competitive at all. Game 2 tonight is going to be head to head with the Red Sox/Yankees for at least the first 5-6 innings. Game 3 will be going head to head with a Cowboys game on Sunday Night. How are either of those ideal for FS1?

As far as the Brewers, game 2 will be on FS1, but game 3 on Sunday is on MLB network.

As far as Adoraz- college sports viewing and pro spots viewing 2 totally different animals. College fans are far more into the conference "SEC SEC SEC" for instance.

My thoughts on Rockies/Cubs- with Colorado in the Pac 12, they have exposure already to Fox. Very few cities don't have exposure to Fox quite frankly. None of the western markets really fit that bill. Seattle- Washington Huskies, Oakland/San Francisco- Cal/Stanford, LA- UCLA/USC, San Diego maybe(although presumably a lot of UCLA/USC fans), Arizona (Arizona/Arizona St), Colorado(Colorado), Texas and Houston have Big 12 connections..... So I think the folks that would watch Fox online already know about it- regardless if it had been Cubs or Rockies.

It's just remarkable that folks here feel like they can never say that something is a bad break for Fox. Just take I don't know something we discussed earlier this year.... Tiger Woods. In the 4 majors, the Players Championship, and Tour Championship he finishes 32nd, 11th, missed cut, 6th, 2nd, and 1st. What was the missed Cut? That's right the US Open. But folks want to act like that's not a bad break. And just like Golf, the MLB playoffs are a bad break for them. To have instead of the Cubs the Brewers in there just isn't good for Fox at all.

I'll close with this- when was the last time something worked out as well for FS1 as things have for Turner in either of the MLB situations? 2015 with Cubs/Cards and Mets/Dodgers or 2018 with Yankees/Red Sox and Astros/Indians? It's actually rather remarkable that there hasn't been something like that.

[stever20]

times up for Monday(though could change if there are sweeps in the NL)
130pm Astros @ Indians
430pm Dodgers @ Braves
730pm Red Sox @ Yankees
940pm Brewers @ Rockies

[Savannah Jay]

As far as the Big East is concerned- I don't think that there's much of a benefit for the Rockies being in the playoffs over the Cubs. At all. Colorado is in the Pac 12, which is covered some by Fox. So the area already knows Fox.

This may belong in the "Stupid Shit Stever Said Hall of Fame." We can shorten it to the 4S HOF if you like...

[MUPanther]

2.459M for COL/MIL Game 1 on FS1. Peak at 3.5M Up 11% from 2016 when the NLDS was last on FS1. LA/Wash

2.123M for ATL/LAD Game 1 on MLBN.