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Use historical importance, past NCAA success, current status, location/TV market, whatever. Here's my list and I'm not sure anyone could argue the bottom 2 are the bottom 2. Using that scale, if the league only goes to 10 that is who should be in/out.

1) Georgetown
2) Villanova
3) St. Johns
4) Marquette
5) Xavier
6) Butler
7) Creighton
8) Seton Hall
9) Providence
10) DePaul
11) SLU
12) Dayton

ArmyVet wrote:Use historical importance, past NCAA success, current status, location/TV market, whatever. Here's my list and I'm not sure anyone could argue the bottom 2 are the bottom 2. Using that scale, if the league only goes to 10 that is who should be in/out.

1) Georgetown
2) Villanova
3) St. Johns
4) Marquette
5) Xavier
6) Butler
7) Creighton
8) Seton Hall
9) Providence
10) DePaul
11) SLU
12) Dayton

I'd probably put Dayton ahead of SLU, SLU would be last IMO. Maybe Depaul should be a little higher too, I know they USE to be pretty good.

DePaul should be higher in theory but they are a Big East afterthought. You could flip flop SLU and Dayton but there's no arguing the Top 4 and probably not the Top 8.

1. G'town - NC's & multiple FF's
2. 'Nova - NC & miultiple FF's
3. Marq.- NC and FF's
4.Johnnies - FF's, rich history, NYC
5. Depaul - dormat now but were a power in the 70-80's, CHI
6. Xavier - rich tourney history
7. Butler - 2 recent FF/NC games
8. SHU - FF
9. Providence - FF
10. Dayton - longer history of success in NCAA
11. Creighton
12. St. Louis

Sorry, Dayton is not ahead of Creighton. We've been to the NCAA's more times (17), have a larger fan base (17,000 a game), better facilities (NBA arena). Not totally sure about academics but we probably win there too. Seton Hall has been to only like 8 NCAAs, one final four I dont think makes up for 9 more appearances by Creighton.

This thread can't possibly end well. We're measuring phallus size here.

Having said that, PC has 2 FF's and 2 E8's.

billyjack wrote:This thread can't possibly end well. We're measuring phallus size here.

Having said that, PC has 2 FF's and 2 E8's.

And no one under 40 knows who the Friars are. But they all know Gonzaga. And they all know McDermott. Providence is riding coattails and everyone knows it.

Dew wrote:

billyjack wrote:This thread can't possibly end well. We're measuring phallus size here.

Having said that, PC has 2 FF's and 2 E8's.

And no one under 40 knows who the Friars are. But they all know Gonzaga. And they all know McDermott. Providence is riding coattails and everyone knows it.

Man, now you're making me feel old...! Looking forward to the new league. I wish it could start this coming November.

billyjack wrote:

Dew wrote:

billyjack wrote:This thread can't possibly end well. We're measuring phallus size here.

Having said that, PC has 2 FF's and 2 E8's.

And no one under 40 knows who the Friars are. But they all know Gonzaga. And they all know McDermott. Providence is riding coattails and everyone knows it.

Man, now you're making me feel old...! Looking forward to the new league. I wish it could start this coming November.

I've probably got you there and I respect the history of PC. Will be fun once we're actually talk about the league as news trickles out.

Jet915 wrote:Sorry, Dayton is not ahead of Creighton. We've been to the NCAA's more times (17), have a larger fan base (17,000 a game), better facilities (NBA arena). Not totally sure about academics but we probably win there too. Seton Hall has been to only like 8 NCAAs, one final four I dont think makes up for 9 more appearances by Creighton.

All-Time Tourney
Seton Hall - 1 FF; 15-9 (.625%)
Creighton - 0 FF; 10-18 (357%)
Dayton - 1 FF; 14-16 (.467)

The fact that SHU and Dayton has competed against better competition and compiled a better tourney record while making FF's is why I gave them the edge. Of course these boards are all about opinions. In 2013, you are correct to say that Creighton is better than both SHU and Dayton. But it didn't ask just for 2013 did it?