Fox Sports 1 Update

[adoraz]

one of those where it sounds good, but it's not. It's the lowest LCS game 7 ever. Even worse than in 2012 which had the misfortune of going up against only Monday Night Football and a presedential debate.

had misfortune of going up not only against LeBron's home opener, but also a major upset in college football with Purdue over Ohio St(#1 game of the weekend in college football).

very surprisingly game 1 of the WS was not good. A 10.0 rating down 2% from last year and down 21% from 2016. Worst since 2014. Didn't see that coming......

That major upset was on Fox, so for them it doesn't really matter.

Regarding Game 1, I'm not surprised MLB ratings are down. I am a big Braves fan, but I didn't tune into the World Series. It's not fun seeing the two teams with the highest payrolls in it yet again. Always more fun when there is an underdog.

MLB isn't like the NBA where people tune in to watch superstar individual players. You're not going to see a player go off for 3 HR in a playoff game like you would see LeBron take over an NBA game. The closest thing to that is the pitcher, which isn't nearly as exciting. People tune in for the teams, especially their own team.

In recent years, it was a big deal seeing teams like the Red Sox, Cubs, and Dodgers making the World Series. I personally rooted for the Red Sox back in 2004 and the Cubs in 2016. Those droughts were historic. Now, I couldn't care less about them and it's getting boring seeing them in it every year. I actually root against all of them now. It'd even be more refreshing seeing the Yankees make it, which I never thought I'd say a few years ago.

Time for a salary cap. Allow the top teams to outspend the lower teams, but put a limit as to how much they can spend.

actually the major upset was on ABC so it did matter to Fox/FS1...

What I think is interesting. I know this girl who is like 25 years old. In her time that she can remember- say since 2000- if the Red Sox win the World Series this year- only 2 franchises would have won more titles than the Red Sox. The Lakers and the Patriots. Red Sox would match the Spurs with 4 titles... Only 4 franchises with 4 titles or more.

Was the Ohio State game on ABC? Just used to it being on Fox or FS1. I actually did tune in for a few minutes, but forgot what channel it was on.

As for the Red Sox, I see their run as less dominate (and less exciting) since the championships are so far apart. 2007 or 2004 teams have nothing in common with what will likely be the 2018 world champs. 2013 was five years ago, too. Nice for their fans, though.

[billyjack]

Game 7: 7.340M on FS1, 339K on FSD.

one of those where it sounds good, but it's not. It's the lowest LCS game 7 ever. Even worse than in 2012 which had the misfortune of going up against only Monday Night Football and a presedential debate.

had misfortune of going up not only against LeBron's home opener, but also a major upset in college football with Purdue over Ohio St(#1 game of the weekend in college football).

very surprisingly game 1 of the WS was not good. A 10.0 rating down 2% from last year and down 21% from 2016. Worst since 2014. Didn't see that coming......

That major upset was on Fox, so for them it doesn't really matter.

Regarding Game 1, I'm not surprised MLB ratings are down. I am a big Braves fan, but I didn't tune into the World Series. It's not fun seeing the two teams with the highest payrolls in it yet again. Always more fun when there is an underdog.

MLB isn't like the NBA where people tune in to watch superstar individual players. You're not going to see a player go off for 3 HR in a playoff game like you would see LeBron take over an NBA game. The closest thing to that is the pitcher, which isn't nearly as exciting. People tune in for the teams, especially their own team.

In recent years, it was a big deal seeing teams like the Red Sox, Cubs, and Dodgers making the World Series. I personally rooted for the Red Sox back in 2004 and the Cubs in 2016. Those droughts were historic. Now, I couldn't care less about them and it's getting boring seeing them in it every year. I actually root against all of them now. It'd even be more refreshing seeing the Yankees make it, which I never thought I'd say a few years ago.

Time for a salary cap. Allow the top teams to outspend the lower teams, but put a limit as to how much they can spend.

Please no salary cap. There's already a luxury tax to help limit team payrolls.

If an argument for a cap is that the Finals get "boring" with the "same old teams" (not that i have a problem with repeat champions, which i don't)::

The NBA, with a salary cap, has had the same 2 finalists the last 4 years... Golden State and Cleveland, Golden State and Cleveland, Golden State and Cleveland, and Golden State and Cleveland.

The NFL, with a salary cap, has had the Patriots almost every year.

That doesn't happen in baseball, which sees more "rises and falls" that any other sport... the Astros, Cubs, Royals, Giants, Red Sox, Giants, Cardinals, Giants, Yankees, and Phillies have won the previous 10 World Series. And the Giants with 3 WS wins now suck. WS losers included some different teams too, the Dodgers, Indians, Mets, Rangers, Tigers, Rays, and Rockies if you go back to 2007. Half of MLB has appeared in a World Series in the last 11 years... wow. This is only the 2nd Boston WS appearance that my sons can remember, and my older son is in 10th grade and has followed baseball since kindergarten. C'mon, how is that "boring" with the "same old teams"...?.

So far each WS game this week has been competitive and nail-biting too.

[adoraz]

one of those where it sounds good, but it's not. It's the lowest LCS game 7 ever. Even worse than in 2012 which had the misfortune of going up against only Monday Night Football and a presedential debate.

had misfortune of going up not only against LeBron's home opener, but also a major upset in college football with Purdue over Ohio St(#1 game of the weekend in college football).

very surprisingly game 1 of the WS was not good. A 10.0 rating down 2% from last year and down 21% from 2016. Worst since 2014. Didn't see that coming......

That major upset was on Fox, so for them it doesn't really matter.

Regarding Game 1, I'm not surprised MLB ratings are down. I am a big Braves fan, but I didn't tune into the World Series. It's not fun seeing the two teams with the highest payrolls in it yet again. Always more fun when there is an underdog.

MLB isn't like the NBA where people tune in to watch superstar individual players. You're not going to see a player go off for 3 HR in a playoff game like you would see LeBron take over an NBA game. The closest thing to that is the pitcher, which isn't nearly as exciting. People tune in for the teams, especially their own team.

In recent years, it was a big deal seeing teams like the Red Sox, Cubs, and Dodgers making the World Series. I personally rooted for the Red Sox back in 2004 and the Cubs in 2016. Those droughts were historic. Now, I couldn't care less about them and it's getting boring seeing them in it every year. I actually root against all of them now. It'd even be more refreshing seeing the Yankees make it, which I never thought I'd say a few years ago.

Time for a salary cap. Allow the top teams to outspend the lower teams, but put a limit as to how much they can spend.

Please no salary cap. There's already a luxury tax to help limit team payrolls.

If an argument for a cap is that the Finals get "boring" with the "same old teams" (not that i have a problem with repeat champions, which i don't)::

The NBA, with a salary cap, has had the same 2 finalists the last 4 years... Golden State and Cleveland, Golden State and Cleveland, Golden State and Cleveland, and Golden State and Cleveland.

The NFL, with a salary cap, has had the Patriots almost every year.

That doesn't happen in baseball, which sees more "rises and falls" that any other sport... the Astros, Cubs, Royals, Giants, Red Sox, Giants, Cardinals, Giants, Yankees, and Phillies have won the previous 10 World Series. And the Giants with 3 WS wins now suck. WS losers included some different teams too, the Dodgers, Indians, Mets, Rangers, Tigers, Rays, and Rockies if you go back to 2007. Half of MLB has appeared in a World Series in the last 11 years... wow. This is only the 2nd Boston WS appearance that my sons can remember, and my older son is in 10th grade and has followed baseball since kindergarten. C'mon, how is that "boring" with the "same old teams"...?.

So far each WS game this week has been competitive and nail-biting too.

NBA and NFL are completely different in regards to salary cap. For those sports, a single player (with a solid team around them) can dominate. In MLB that doesn't happen. MLB requires a full team and not just one or two superstars.

You are correct that MLB has had a HUGE amount of variation in World Series teams. However, let's examine the two teams in it this year. LA Dodgers only recently started spending like crazy with new ownership. The prior four years they had the top payroll and finally started making the World Series after underperforming for decades. Then Boston overtook them this year for the #1 payroll. No coincidence at all that both are in it in large part due to their payrolls. I think the trend will continue in this direction, as those teams continue to spend at their current levels. We have two massive franchises now that have shown they will spend whatever it takes. That wasn't the case before.

As for ratings, I think MLB works best when you have an underdog type team (even if they are a struggling large market team like the Cubs in 2016) up against a large market team. Lowest rated World Series was Yankees vs Mets in 2000. Nobody aside from those fan bases wanted to watch two teams from the largest market.

We'll see how the final ratings turn out, but so far not very impressive.

[stever20]

I think the luxury tax definitely has had an impact. The Dodgers this year were right up against it and they didn't want to go over it. As a result, they didn't go out and get some good relievers. And as a result- their bullpen ERA in the World Series was almost 5.50- and in the 4 losses was 9.00.

MLB has had 22 teams win the World Series since 1979. Out of 30 teams. Of the 8 non winners- 6 have been to the World Series- with 5 of those 6 being in the series in the last 20 years....

Red Sox basically put all their eggs in this year. Kimbrel, Eovaldi, and Kelly are free agents after this year, and then after next year- guys like Sale and Boegarts are free agents.

LA has a lot of turnover this year as well.....

[stever20]

Saw Fox has resigned with MLB thru 2028.....

The one part for FS1 though- Beginning in 2022, the amount of regular-season and postseason games televised by the FOX broadcast network will increase.

The article from MLB didn't have any specifics on just how much- but you would think probably MLB is going to force at least the LCS to be on Fox Broadcast.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-fox-comple ... -300757548

[MUPanther]

Michigan’s win over Villanova in the Gavitt Games matchup ranks among FS1’s 10 most-watched regular-season college basketball games. 406k

First four game of the Gavitt Games on FS1. Up 58% from last year.

[MUPanther]

Wednesday Nov. 21st- Fort Meyers Classic
5 PM- Wyoming vs. Richmond (FS1) Brandon Gaudin, Bob Wenzel
7:30 PM- Loyola-Chicago vs. Boston College (FS1) Brandon Gaudin, Bob Wenzel






------------------------------Thanksgiving Hoops ON FS1..........................................................................

Southern Illinois vs. Massachusetts, 1:30, FS1 Alex Faust and Doug Gottlieb
CONTINENTAL TIRE LAS VEGAS HOLIDAY INVITATIONAL-semifinal

6 Nevada vs. Tulsa, 4:00, FS1 Alex Faust and Doug Gottlieb
CONTINENTAL TIRE LAS VEGAS HOLIDAY INVITATIONAL-semifinal

7 North Carolina vs. Texas, 7:30, FS1 - Tim Brando, Bill Raftery
CONTINENTAL TIRE LAS VEGAS INVITATIONAL--semifinal

11 Michigan State vs. 21 UCLA, 10:00, FS1 - Tim Brando, Bill Raftery
CONTINENTAL TIRE LAS VEGAS INVITATIONAL--semifinal

[MUPanther]

Nice day on FOX last Saturday....
Kentucky/Seton Hall (12:00, FOX): 1.512M
Louisville/Indiana (2:30, FOX): 1.431M
Wisconsin/Marquette (5:00, FOX): 1.204M

[adoraz]

Nice day on FOX last Saturday....
Kentucky/Seton Hall (12:00, FOX): 1.512M
Louisville/Indiana (2:30, FOX): 1.431M
Wisconsin/Marquette (5:00, FOX): 1.204M

Looks pretty impressive to me.

These OOC games against big time opponents need to keep happening, even if we're major underdogs. St. John's vs Duke earlier this year on Fox had pretty solid ratings as well. Nova recently added a big series with Kansas. Georgetown has Syracuse. Etc, etc.

Really like what the Pirates did in regards to their schedule this year. Maybe a BIT overboard, but appears to help them stay relevant during a down year. Every team in the conference should schedule at least 1 or 2 of these type of opponents annually.

[whiteandblue77]

Nice day on FOX last Saturday....
Kentucky/Seton Hall (12:00, FOX): 1.512M
Louisville/Indiana (2:30, FOX): 1.431M
Wisconsin/Marquette (5:00, FOX): 1.204M

Looks pretty impressive to me.

These OOC games against big time opponents need to keep happening, even if we're major underdogs. St. John's vs Duke earlier this year on Fox had pretty solid ratings as well. Nova recently added a big series with Kansas. Georgetown has Syracuse. Etc, etc.

Really like what the Pirates did in regards to their schedule this year. Maybe a BIT overboard, but appears to help them stay relevant during a down year. Every team in the conference should schedule at least 1 or 2 of these type of opponents annually.

Creighton has the toughest schedule in the league and top 5 in the country. We're doing our part. Only one ACC pelt to claim, still got the Sooners in Norman, not good but next year look the F out for the Bluejays.